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Monday, November 07, 2005

Muslim Riots in France

Every time Muslims are in the news they are either engaging in horrible violence, or defending the ones who are. Am I the only getting sick of this?

For 12 days now Muslims have been rioting in France because two retards got themselves electrocuted while running from the cops. It wasn’t even the cop’s fault! So now these people think they have the right to riot for weeks on end, burn people and property, terrorize communities, and murder innocents. Some religion of peace.

What gets me is that these retards are being allowed to do this horrible stuff. This situation makes me glad we have the right to bear arms in America, because unlike the French, we can fight back. If these idiots were doing all of this in my neighborhood I would go to the gun shop, but that Tommy-gun I’ve been admiring and an extra ammo drum, load up both 100 round drums, grab it, my .44 magnum Smith & Wesson pistol, my .338 Win-mag rifle and go up on my roof. From there I would proceed with a sniper action, blasting the violent rioters with my .338, and switching to the Tommy-gun as soon as they decided to come for me. The streets would be littered with the dead bodies of murdering arsonists, and I would not stop until they leave or they are all dead.

I don’t care that they are Muslims engaging in this riot. I would do the same thing to any mob that threatened my home.

Once upon a time I actually had a positive view of Muslims. It was Saladin that was responsible for that. He was an honorable man and a hero; very much worth admiring. All that changed for me when I found out about the new crop of warriors Islam has raised, starting with the father of modern terrorism himself, Yasser Arafat. Now we have Bin-laden and his cronies, Al-Zarqawi and his cronies, and various other terror groups and random mobs who perpetuate a cycle of indiscriminate violence everywhere they go. These murderers receive moral support from at least half of the worldwide Muslim community. Is it any wonder that when someone expressed disbelief at the French riots I could only respond with “What do you expect? They’re Muslims.” And what’s worse, he instantly nodded and spoke his agreement, and then everyone else in the room responded in kind.

Keep it up Muslims. You’re pissing of the whole world more and more with every idiotic bit of violence you engage in. Not every nation is as ethical as the US. If you piss off the Chinese you can expect a war of genocide the likes of which has never been seen, and it just may be the US that puts a stop to it, NOT because we like you, but because we are opposed to genocide and consider it the worst of crimes.


  • "Am I the only getting sick of this?"

    No. Islam may be a "religion of peace", but it's also stuck in the dark ages and violent and corrupt beyond belief.

    And, yes, something like this makes me glad for the 2nd Amendment.

    By Blogger Rebekah, at 12:53 PM  

  • I'll take my M1 Carbine (war prize of my Dad's, brought home from Normandy how poetic), about a dozen 30-rd clips,and Federal hollowpoint 110 gr. rounds.

    Also my Walther-P99 and a few clipsfull of homeloaded buck-n-ball 9mm.

    A few styrofoam/gasoline napalm cannisters, and it's rocknroll time.

    Meanwhile, back at the Arch de Triumph, French Soldiers are being taught the fine art of surrender wearing white gloves on hands held above their heads during evening formation.

    So typically French. Stand by while Paris burns, then probably call on us for help.


    By Blogger Phantom_Driver, USNR, Ret., at 1:45 PM  

  • I can't wait to hear the liberals tell us this is Bush's fault, and you know it's coming.

    By Blogger Cody O'Connor, at 3:38 PM  

  • Its an example of why socilism doesn't work. When the gov gives you everything you want more and more.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:22 PM  

  • Funny that we look right past the facts that the youths involved are primarily poor, the children of immigrants, and racial minorities, and go straight to the Muslim part.

    These are race riots. America and every other country are familiar with them. Believe it or not, the snooty French are actually more conservative than we are when it comes to multiculturalism (does anybody remember when Chirac tried to ban Muslim headwear in schools?), so there was even more pressure there waiting to blow.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 6:45 PM  

  • Catastrophile,
    I couldn't care less tat they are poor Muslims. I are that like so many other Muslims they are busy being as violent as possible and just daring anyone to stop them. I care that they are killing people and destroying property. Poverty is no excuse for this.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 7:31 PM  

  • "These murderers receive moral support from at least half of the worldwide Muslim community"

    They certainly do.

    Catastrophile said: "Funny that we look right past the facts that the youths involved are primarily poor, the children of immigrants, and racial minorities, and go straight to the Muslim part."

    You bet we do, Catastrophile! I wonder why? Could it be because we are at war with extremist Muslims? No.... that would be too logical! Maybe it would also be because France turned it's back on Terrorism and is now paying the price...? No, that wouldn't make sense to you either, would it? I don't know why we bother to argue with you people. Really I don't!
    If you are too ignorant to understand that Muslims are going beserk in France because France was to cowardly to stand up to terrorists then nothing I or anyone can say to you will make any sense to you!

    As I have said before and will reiterate: "Ignorance is a blessing to some; without it they would be unable to speak!"

    Thank you, Dan, for helping me out. You have more of the statistics than I do. I think you might have an actual shot at being president some day!

    Blessings to you.

    By Blogger Gayle, at 7:42 PM  

  • yup, the French have asked for this shit. they thought they were too good to 'lower themselves' to the American way of dealing with any kind of terrorism...it was just easier for them to ignore it, as long as it wasn't happening in their country!

    By Blogger Libby, at 7:56 PM  

  • "Kill 'em all -- let Allah Sort 'Em Out"

    101st Airborne, Afghanistan

    By Blogger The Hammer, at 11:38 AM  

  • Hammer,
    I'm gald to another soldier here. Welcome!

    Fort Richardson Dental Clinic

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 12:03 PM  

  • I thank you my friend.

    PA Office
    Bagram, Afghanistan

    By Blogger The Hammer, at 1:04 PM  

  • Gayle --

    What evidence do you have that these riots have anything to do with terrorism, Iraq, or anything else? I understand that you very badly want this to be the case, I just don't see how you can call me ignorant for not seeing the connection.

    When we have race riots here, is that proof that Christian extremism is to blame for everything?

    You're saying that it's obvious that this is tied to Islam, because it's obviously tied to Islam, because it must be tied to Islam. I say, come on, make the case, don't just throw insults.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 1:29 PM  

  • PS:

    "I don't know why we bother to argue with you people. Really I don't!"

    Sometimes I wonder the same thing about "you people." So we have something in common.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 1:34 PM  

  • Catastrophile,
    I would appreciate if you could tie any previous (preferably something after 1965) race riot in the US to any religion in particular as these riots are based on skin color. The Muslim riots in France however, are based on religion.

    I forget, when was the last time the Black Panthers rioted? They are a black Muslim group, and they happen to be racists extremists.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 2:47 PM  

  • So what you are saying catashrophile is that its okay for them to shoot shotguns at the police because they're poor oppresed Musilms? Sicko.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:07 PM  

  • Hey everybody,
    Please try to keep the name calling and cussing to a minimum. I prefer civilized, rational debate to emotional debate and personal attacks.

    Thank you.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 3:17 PM  

  • darksaturos: No, I'm not saying that. I'm not even coming close to saying that. I think you might have something in your eye.

    Daniel: "I would appreciate if you could tie any previous (preferably something after 1965) race riot in the US to any religion in particular as these riots are based on skin color."

    Exactly. They are race riots.

    "The Muslim riots in France however, are based on religion."

    Says who? This is my point. Everybody's acting as if there is some evidence that these riots are "Islamic" in nature, when I don't see a whit of evidence that they're anything other than race riots.

    I realize the rioters are predominantly Muslim, but that's not evidence, since nonwhite immigrants to Europe (and their children) are predominantly Muslim. That being the case, I can't categorize the unfounded assertion that these are religious riots as anything other than religious bigotry.

    So, once again, what evidence do you have that causes you to ignore the other factors -- and go straight to religion in this case? Any response that doesn't involve a distortion of my words or a personal attack would be appreciated.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 4:30 PM  

  • Personal attacks? Only one word in that whole thing had a personal attack. The rest seemed pretty logical to me. Basically it said that riots cannot be rationalized for any reason. The people who do them are nuts.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:38 PM  

  • dark: No, you just distorted my words. Gayle made with the personal attack.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 5:09 PM  

  • I did not, and will not accuse anyone in particular of personal attacks, I just noticed people getting heated and felt the need to remind everyone to be civil.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 7:29 PM  

  • Catastrophile,
    The rioters are not predominantly Muslim, they are ALL Muslim.

    There are non-muslim middle easters types who have immigrated to France, and none of them are rioting. This is why I say it is a religious riot and not a race riot. Skin color has nothing to do with it.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 7:31 PM  

  • Once again: whence comes this information? I don't believe anybody's had a chance to do a census of the rioters. We know that the areas involved are predominantly populated with Muslim immigrant families, but I still haven't seen any indication that the rioters are universally Muslim.

    Indeed, French clerics have put out calls for peace, and been ignored.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 9:43 PM  

  • Jacques is strapped by these terrorists (which is what they are, first and foremost). Calling them 'disadvantaged out of work students' is the suckeage we expect from the liberal press.

    Islam calls for the murder of infidels who will not convert.

    Plain and simple.

    These "poor disadvantaged souls" from Africa would love to dance on our graves.

    And Chirac offers them freebies in college, etc. etc. ad naseum after another 600 autos torched last night.

    We used to hang arsonists in this country. In France, they are rewarded.

    One would have thought the French would have learned something from WW2. Perhaps they have. They learned how to surrender.

    If Chirac had any cojones, he'd have marched the army in there the first night and put down what is turning into undefended terrorist attacks.

    Phantom Driver
    Proud father of an American Soldier, and consumer of Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. (But not Freedom Ticklers)

    By Blogger Phantom_Driver, USNR, Ret., at 4:03 AM  

  • "Indeed, French clerics have put out calls for peace, and been ignored."

    Are these the same Muslim clerics who have been calling for violence for the last few years, or different ones?

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 6:15 AM  

  • Presumably, different ones. I havent heard much about French clerics issuing fatwas to kill whitey, but I don't really follow European news, so . . .

    Phantom Driver: "Islam calls for the murder of infidels who will not convert."

    Really? Where?

    Look, I'm not interesting in defending radical Islam. All I can say is that radical Islamists who blow things up are every bit as despicable as radical Christians who blow things up.

    Here's the thing, though:

    If I were to argue that Oklahoma City proved that Christians are the enemy of America and we need to go after them, you'd presumably recognize what an insane concept that is. And you might very well argue that by grouping all Christians together I'm just encouraging the moderates to become more radical.

    So if I were to argue that our policies over the last fifty years have contributed significantly to the radicalization of Islam, would you call me anti-American?

    I'm just trying to suggest that when you group all Muslims together, you're encouraging those who are on the fence to come down on the other side, just as if our response to Christian Identity terrorists had been to declare war on Christianity.

    This idiocy in Paris isn't an inherently religious matter, and it's not about terrorism. It's a different animal. To make the assumption that it's all about Islam is to bunch all Muslims together, blindly and without evidence.

    It's not productive, and it's not healthy. It's the same kind of visceral hatred that drives the enemy.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 10:53 AM  

  • Catastrophile,
    You always make sense when you speak, and I greatly repect that, but I must point something out.

    What you are seeing in this dicussion is a shared perception of Muslims that has been developing, growing, and spreading since terrorism bagan. It has remained utterly unckecked in the Muslin nations, which to many of us implies both governmental, and popular support for this atrocity by the Muslim people. Hence, when something like the French riots, which I will conceed may simply be a race riot, it is insticntive, and sensible to attribute the violence to the common thread these people share, as well as to link them with their best known representatives on the world stage. Hence, these rioters are lumped into the same group as teroorists ebcause they share the same background, ideology, and religion. It may be streotypical to do this, but stereotypes become streotypes for a reason. That rreason is what people know about the group being sterotyped based on that group's behavior.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 12:22 PM  

  • Fair enough.

    At the same time, there's a widespread perception among the Muslim world that westerners are only interested in their land and their oil, and we'll do anything to get it -- and we've fed into that perception plenty.

    In other words, it cuts both ways.

    And, as always, it's easier to see the speck in the other's eye -- a very large speck I grant you. Still, we must also be aware of what we've done wrong, and what we could do differently.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 1:03 PM  

  • Oklahoma City was NOT a Christain attack Catastrophile. The guy who did it was atheist. Let's treat it as an atheist attack on America if you want to play that way.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:33 AM  

  • McVeigh was an atheist? Who just happened to hang out with Christian Identity, and randomly showed up to talk to reporters during the Waco siege?


    By Blogger catastrophile, at 12:38 PM  

  • Christian Identity is white supremist group. Their thelogy is on eof hatred and exclusion that is the opposite of Christianity.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 3:13 PM  

  • Uhm, christain terrorists???? Well lets see has any main stream Christian leader called for killing off other religions? I don't think so, but when the big iman and allatolas call for suicide bombers and such you just have to suspec tislam is an evil vile belief. Islams holy book (about as holy as pig dung) is full of hate, dehumanizes womans rights, calls for warfare, even calls of rdeciet and lies to overcome the infidel. Contrast that with what Jesus preached (and you ain't no Christian unless you believe and try to practice what Jesus taught. Lets see. Love thy nieghbor, forgivness, turn the other check, charity, etc... Jesus even forgave those that killed him.

    Mohamad was a murderous thug, a common thief that had visions in the desert of allah telling him to use the sword to convert infideal (ie kill em or convert em)

    Terrorists that might call themselve "christian" are nto acting like chistians, and have no support at all by 99.999% of the christians, nor any legitimate chistian denomination.

    last i heard the head guy in Mecca was calling for a holy war and jihad and such.

    islam is just a bunch of garbage, it's followers are brains washed into this cult of murder, islam is a cult, it drives the believers into killing themselves, kind of like Jim Jones and the kool aid. Too bad islamic folks don't just drink the kool aid to get to paradise. (ps 72 virgins will get old asfter a while i figue 72 wild nights and paridise is all used up, christian don't expect such a silly reward in heaven. That 72 virgin thing to me proves mohamads visions that he wrote in the koran were nothing more that a drunken dream of an orgy by a scumbag "prophet" who was more concerned about his prick than love and peace.

    islam is a dangerous cult, its followers need be de-programed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:12 PM  

  • ignorance is bliss and you guys are safe from worry. the blind leading the blind.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:41 PM  

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