Just . . . wow
There was an assassination attempt against Vice President Dick Cheney last week. I waited to write about it because, despite the hugeness of this event, there is something even bigger to come out of it here at home.
Pure, venomous, liberal hatred.
The only reason such hatred fromliberals is news is because liberals have spent decades cultivating an image of compassion and love. If this was ever true, and it really is for some, then it has been changed. There is nowhere in America that I have encountered more hatred than among modern liberals. This istuation is an excellent example.
The liberal blogoshpere is riddled with sories and comments about how big a shame it is that the terrorists didn't succeed at murdering Dick Cheney.
What kind of sick, perverted "love and compassion" is this?
This is just another example of how liberals have developed into a movement that is, by and large, intolerant, bigoted, and even hateful. For all of their accusations levelled against the right, the vast majority seem to come from a twisted point of view that denies the truth in favor asuming a predisposed point. All it takes is to disagree and the liberals label you, call you names, and, of course, deny, deny, deny the truth. Which is proof that not only are liberals frequently hateful, they are bigoted, and ignorant too.
So keep on talking about how much you wish harm would come to those you disaagree with. Keep trying to intimidate conservative speakers whiel you attempt to shout them down. Keep calling people names just because you don't like what they say even though it is the truth. The more you keep it up the more conservatives you create.
Pure, venomous, liberal hatred.
The only reason such hatred fromliberals is news is because liberals have spent decades cultivating an image of compassion and love. If this was ever true, and it really is for some, then it has been changed. There is nowhere in America that I have encountered more hatred than among modern liberals. This istuation is an excellent example.
The liberal blogoshpere is riddled with sories and comments about how big a shame it is that the terrorists didn't succeed at murdering Dick Cheney.
What kind of sick, perverted "love and compassion" is this?
This is just another example of how liberals have developed into a movement that is, by and large, intolerant, bigoted, and even hateful. For all of their accusations levelled against the right, the vast majority seem to come from a twisted point of view that denies the truth in favor asuming a predisposed point. All it takes is to disagree and the liberals label you, call you names, and, of course, deny, deny, deny the truth. Which is proof that not only are liberals frequently hateful, they are bigoted, and ignorant too.
So keep on talking about how much you wish harm would come to those you disaagree with. Keep trying to intimidate conservative speakers whiel you attempt to shout them down. Keep calling people names just because you don't like what they say even though it is the truth. The more you keep it up the more conservatives you create.
posted by Daniel Levesque at
8:02 AM
18 Comments:
I agree, the more that anyone spews hatred and venom and wishes of death, the less they sound like classic liberals and the more they sound like...modern conservatives!
ha! (I didn't say "ha! ha!" because I'm only halfway joking...)
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Dan Trabue, at 3:15 AM
"I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo."
~Ann Coulter, Dec 21,2005
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers."
~Ann Coulter, Sept 12, 2001
"You liberals are the descendents of Adolf Hitler, only you don’t know it. You’re the most dangerous people on planet Earth."
~Michael Savage
"I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."
~Michael Savage
...I could get much worse venom if I start just choosing random no-name bloggers, as you're referencing.
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Dan Trabue, at 3:25 AM
I'ts interesting what equates to a deth wish in your book.
Let's compare apples to aples.
GIve me quote from a major conservative outlet, something at least as big as the Huffington Post and the Daily KOS are on teh liberal side, where many of the comments I am speaking of in this post can, or once could be found before they were expose, that was expressing sentiments wishing that the man who shot at teh White House during Bill Clinton's presidency had hit the formerepresident of vice president.
You won't find any.
I must admit though, the way you equate a Michael Savage making a tongue-in-cheek comment about women voters (that I do not agree with, and I would bet he doesn;t agree wit either. He, and Ann Coulter are known for making provocative comments and jokes for the sake of being provocative) is equal to wishing terrorists would kill the Vice President to be very revealing.
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Daniel Levesque, at 12:00 PM
Let's compare apples to apples, indeed.
Show me some major so-called "liberal" spokesperson calling for the deaths of hundreds of thousands (as I've seen many bloggers pulling for the nuclear destruction of Iran, Iraq and other points of hatred).
Are there a few whackjobs on the Left who celebrated the notion of Cheney being killed? Probably. Are there a few whackjobs on the Right who'd celebrate the same thing? Yes, probably.
But is such a celebration called for by any responsible spokesperson on either the right or left? No.
If there's any "side" that advocates death and killing, do you really think that the "liberal" side would hold more than the so-called "conservative" side?
I don't think so.
After the violent hatred spewed by some extremes on the Right for the last many years, it's a bit disengenuous to denounce it by a few on the Left.
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Dan Trabue, at 12:34 PM
Once again, you completely avoided the question, and completely failed to compare apples to apples.
I repeat:
Find ONE conservative source with at leastth epopularity of the Huffington Post and the Daily KOS that expressed a sentiment wishing that the man who shot at the White House during Bill Clinton's presidency had killed the former president.
As for your evasive response, the fact that liberals DON'T want to destroy the enemies of our nation that want to destroy us is proof that you are all wrong in the head. The fact that you want to protect people who are actively killing Americans demonstrates that your moral compass is skewed, and that you probably prefer our enemies to your own countrymen. Couple this with wishing that these same enemies would kill our elected leaders and you have people who appear to be just like our enemies.
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Daniel Levesque, at 4:43 PM
I don't know much about American politics and I hate the word 'bitch' but from what I have seen of a certain Ms Coulter she would be that word personified. Not because she is a Conservative but because she seems to actually enjoy being a thoroughly vile human being.
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DanProject76, at 11:24 AM
Mr. Trabue, please. Most conservatives hate Ann Coulter and Michael Savage too. Can't we just agree that nuts on either side pretty much are morons and that in this instantance, your crazies were as wrong as conservative crazies are? Do you have to defend the bloggers who are crazy? Does it help your cause? I can't see how.
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Anonymous, at 11:47 AM
That was my point exactly, Mr. M. I nowhere defended the nutsos on the Left - my point was that there are nuts on the Right, as well, and it does not help to paint with such sweeping generalizations as "pure, venomous, liberal hatred," and trying to suggest this is the norm.
Let's write off the nuts on both the Left and the Right without assuming they represent Conservatism or Liberalism.
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Dan Trabue, at 2:23 AM
I can agree to that.
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Anonymous, at 11:06 AM
Dan T,
You still have not presented an example of a conservative anything with the popularity or influence of the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos that expresed a wish the former president Clinton had been shot when that nutjob shot at teh White House. Unless you can do this I shall maintain my position that the left has deeper, more institutionalized, and more generalized hatred than the all but the very estreme minority on the right.
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Daniel Levesque, at 8:50 AM
I, for the most part, don't go to those sorts of places. Bad for my spiritual health, you know?
My point was and remains that:
1. The fact that there are a few nuts on the Left who would applaud Cheney's death does not indicate that this is typical of the Left.
2. Just as it's true that there are a few nuts on the Right who would applaud nuking Iran.
3. Both approaches are wrong and wrongheaded.
4. In neither case, does it mean that the few violence-advocaters represent the bulk of the folk on their "side."
5. A fair appraisal of the majority of those from both positions would show that there are MORE of those on the Right who advocate crazy violence than there are on the Left.
6. This is because the Right is starting with the supposition that deadly violence is an acceptable ideal at times, while the "official" (unofficially) position of the Left is that deadly violence is wrong, that at times may be used, but it represents a failure if we are forced to use violence.
Agree or disagree, I think reality speaks for itself.
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Dan Trabue, at 8:39 AM
"I, for the most part, don't go to those sorts of places. Bad for my spiritual health, you know?"
In other words, you have no examples to give of anything equal to this situation coming from the right. You proved my point. there are more, and more influential people and organizations on the left that wish for teh death of their politacl opponents than there are on the right. This means that the left has vastly more hate in it than the right. Simple as that.
As for your supposed spititual health, it is good for you to know the opposition so you can actually fight it. Ignorance opens you to the devil because you will have no facts to fight him with when he seeks to decieve you.
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Daniel Levesque, at 9:00 AM
Well, I'm here, aren't I? I do talk to those who come from a different place than I do all the time. I just don't usually go to any "popular" ones (ie, Michelle Malkin, Dennis Prager, Daily Kos, etc) on a regular basis.
But you just made an unsubstantiated claim that I believe to be patently incorrect. You said, "there are more, and more influential people and organizations on the left that wish for teh death of their politacl opponents than there are on the right."
Who? Who wishes death upon their political opponents?
For what it's worth, I don't normally see those on the Right calling for death and destruction, but I do see it.
I've seen people calling for the court martial and death squad for soldiers who obeyed their conscience and refused to serve in the Iraq Invasion. I've seen people calling for putting to death "traitors" who dare to disagree publicly with the president. I've seen people calling for a nuclear attack upon the people of Iran, Syria and Iraq, not to mention N. Korea and probably a few other places.
You haven't seen this kind of commentary? I have. But it's from those marginalized on the extreme right, usually.
Just as those who'd rejoice in the assassination of a president or vice president are marginalized.
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Dan Trabue, at 10:59 AM
"Who? Who wishes death upon their political opponents?"
Are you really that ill-informed? Shall I begin with the celebrities who have publicly advocated lynching President Bush? Perhaps you would prefer the onslaught of comments, many deleted by the webmasters for the sirtes on the popular blogs, like the Huffington Post and The Daily KOS where people were expressing their wish that the terrorists had managed to kill Vice President Cheny. Perhaps I should simply remind you that the commentators on Air America have made similar comments. Maybe yuo would be mre concerned by the fact that John Kerry made jokes about shooting President Bush when he was given a gun as a gift during the 2004 elections.
The fact is that these kinds of sentiments are everywhere and not all are from the marginalized extreme left, which the marginalization itself can be disputed since parts of the extreme left are now openly bragging about controlling the Democrat party.
Open your eyes and open your ears. What you see and hear will astound you.
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Daniel Levesque, at 8:05 PM
I suppose I am ill-informed then. I've heard no one reputable calling for the deaths of Bush/Cheney. (Other than a few no-name commenters here and there around the anonymous blogosphere - as I've seen it on the Left and Right).
Feel free to enlighten me. Obama? Edwards? Clinton? Kucinich? Huffington? Bill Moyers? Jim Wallis?
Who? Who is calling for deaths?
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Dan Trabue, at 2:56 AM
Charle Booker, of the newspaper The Guardian wrote:
"On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. - where are you now that we need you?"
The editor of the paper that ran this story is an associate of Bill Clinton.
Alec Balwin called for President Bush's death on The Tonight Show.
"Death of a President" was made by liberal Gabriel Range is a wishful drama abot the murder of a siting President, the first such movie ever made.
The movie had an almost entirely liberal audience that loved it.
The Huffington Post had to take down mundreds of death wishes for Vice President Cheny after Rush Limbaugh outed them on radio.
Similar vitriol canbe found at The Daily KOS.
Bobby Miller wrote the popular book "The Business of Assassination" which actually tell people how to assassinate President Bush.
John Kerry joked about shooting President Bush during the presidential debates after being given a gun as a gift, during the elections.
And yes, thousands of no-name Bloggers can be added to the list, as can many more non-marginalized, better known people. This is just a sample.
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Daniel Levesque, at 8:46 AM
Well, I do have to agree about the Air America thing. Listen to that station for five minutes and it can get pretty bad. That is kind of the liberal radio station of the times.
I guess it depends if we're talking about representatives or constituants. I still don't think many normal liberals do hate like that, but some representatives probably do.
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Anonymous, at 6:23 AM
Woah! This does show how much venomous hatred liberals have against conservatives.
And for Dan Trabue, the guy with conservative "hatred" on his comment, let me ask you this... did we put devil's horns on liberals? Did we call liberals the nastiest names in history? True, Ann Coulter goes up on TV and says "Screw democrats" the instant she's on the air, but liberals say "F@#$ conservatives!" Big difference there.
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Evan, at 3:49 PM
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