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Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Cheap, Cheap Guns

I came across the crappiest pistol ever. For legal purposes I will withhold the name since I am about to blast everything about it.

This handgun was the most hideous, clunky thing I have ever seen. It was an absolute disgrace to handgun design with oversized everything that looked slapped together from mismatched parts.

This handgun was so badly constructed that a brand-new, never been used one rattles when it is shaken. Not the magazine rattles, although it does, the insides of the pistol itself rattle as though a single shot could separate them.

This handgun is cheap. How cheap? How does around $140 in a market where guns cost 30-50% above the national average sound? It’s so cheap that I just had to ask about it, and soon regretted doing so.

There is only one reason I can think of why such a piece of crap would be made and sold. The company must be targeting thugs and criminals as its customer base. Who else would want a cheap throw-away gun that couldn’t possibly last through years of proper use? A thug planning a small-time job can go to the gun shop, buy this POS, use it in the crime, then destroy it or throw it away without really losing anything.

I have evidence that this is true! There is a guy locally who buys three or four of these things every year. Now if he’s not reselling them to felons and desperate men or using them in crimes I will eat my hat. Nobody who can afford to spend $400 a year on the same POS pistol would buy this thing for himself. He would buy something nice that will last and perform well.

I love guns, but that doesn’t mean there should be a company making guns specifically for the criminal element. Make nice guns. Slap a slightly higher price tag on them so that at least if some crook buys it and uses it in a crime he’ll think twice before throwing his investment away.


  • Hmmm.. it's time to play "Guess the Maker" .. Italy? Brazil? Spain?
    Must be an autoloader (magazine).

    As far as targeting criminals, you can get a Chinese SKS with 30 round mag for under a hundred at most gun shows.

    Interarms imported about 2 million of them in the past few years, yet almost non of these so-called assault rifles are used in crime. Were I to be a bank robber, I'd cut one of these down.

    However, were I to use anything for on the street personal defense, or carjacking, a pistola would probably be the tool of choice.

    But hey, wasn't the FBI check and waiting period supposed to stop all this? (insert laughter here)Paging Mr. Shumer.. Mr. Fine .. Mr. Shumer...

    What cal. is this hunk-0-junk?

    By Blogger meesterjoneser, at 6:06 PM  

  • As the subject is open, I just purchased a Walther NightHawk P99 pellet pistol, with tactical light, red dot sight, and muzzle brake from Cabela's for $140 for starling and rat control here at the Rancho Lumbago.

    It's made like a Swiss watch, Walther grade thru and thru. 550 fps
    .17 CO2 (65 shots/cart). Looks and feels and made just like the real Walther (in Germany--the P99 model)Rifled steel barrel. I can get a 4 inch group at 30 yards with it, and its a ton of fun to shoot. Fits fine in a BDU pocket too. No junk here, I highly recommend Walther if you're in the market for any kind of weapon. The Tact. light is now on the slide of my Mossberg 500 but could have all been mounted on the sidearm itself.

    Good cheap shooting with 3 dot sight keeps you in practice for the real deal.

    By Blogger meesterjoneser, at 6:19 PM  

  • It's a .40 cal acp.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 6:56 PM  

  • Hmm... something about "flame" and "storm" in the name???

    By Blogger meesterjoneser, at 7:17 PM  

  • Perhaps made for criminals, perhaps not. Not to disagree, but maybe they make it for poor people.
    The left uses the same argument on "saturday night specials".
    I would rather have that POS than a rolled up newspaper.
    Maybe that's the only thing a fixed-income grandma can afford.

    No offense, but we should exercise caution when saying "those types of guns" should be outlawed, regardless of what "those types" are.
    Slippery slope and all.


    By Blogger The Conservative UAW Guy, at 1:53 AM  

  • BTW, where are these sub-$100 SKS's?
    I haven't seen them that cheap since before the "assault weapons" ban.
    Did they get cheaper since the ban expired? I haven't looked for a while...

    By Blogger The Conservative UAW Guy, at 1:55 AM  

  • CUG- you make a good point, but don't put words in my mouth. I never said they should be banned. I said the manufacturer should make a better gun and charge more for it. The manufacturer should do it voluntarily. It's ridiculous to suggest banning inexpensive guns for the reasons you just stated. Also, I just paid $160 for an SKS myself not two weeks ago.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 6:10 AM  

  • Last gun show I was at a guy had about 30 of 'em in cardboard boxes on the tailgate of his truck in the parking lot, along with all the bandoleers, ammo, etc. etc. He also had new Chinese autoloading 12 ga. shotguns (which looked well made) for $200. Who knows where he got them. Inside the show, a licensed dealer had East Euro versions of AK's for $150, but they had stamped and not milled receivers. This was a few months ago, so price may have jumped based on level of worry about terror.

    Agreed on avail. of inexpensive navel-makers. Beats ball-peen hammers in a confrontation, waving capes, or shouting "Booga-Booga".

    Besides, why buy a new POS when even here in NY I can get, used, a Smith wheelgun in .38 snubby for under $200. Loaded with proper ammo, it's a more than adequate power tool.

    Lock 'n Load,

    By Blogger meesterjoneser, at 6:49 AM  

  • The thing about this particular brand, what the heck, Hi-Lite, that gets to me is the sheer hideousness and poor construction of this weapon that would scare off anyone who wants a keeper. Also, something like 80% of the crimes committed with guns involve handguns. This is why I am unconcerned with inexpensive rifles. It's just plain harder to conceal big guns and potential victims would see the crook coming. That's why handguns get used in so many crimes. It took moving to Alaska and finally seeing pistols being used for something other than killing people to convince me that they deserve the same protection under the Second Amendment as other guns. I have been a gun advocate my whole adult life, but Alaska is actually responsible for battering down the last of my misconceptions abut guns from my liberal youth. I may have overreacted when I saw and held this POS, but it didn't help that there was a really nice .30 cal semi auto Beretta for only $80 more sitting right next to it. Given the choice and limited funds I would choose the better gun for $80 more, especially if I was a granny as CUG mentioned.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 7:15 AM  

  • why do you love guns?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:31 AM  

  • sounds like a high point 40cal to me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:40 PM  

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