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Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Who the Democrats REALLY Love

I just saw a fascinating poll where, out of 16 potential Democratic contenders for the nomination for President in 2008 Hillary Clinton came in 6th. It seems she is less popular among her own party than the Democrats and the MSM would have us believe. Al Gore actually came in first with a commanding lead over his closest challenger . . . Howard Dean!

Apparently pretending to be a moderate is not working out too well for Hilary since the Democratic base seems to prefer far-left greenies like Al Gore, and hate spewing shame mongers like Howard Dean.

Al Gore also won the status of coolest Democrat, garnering a full 48.5% of the vote in a 10 way contest. Howard Dean came in third, just behind Bubba. Hillary Clinton Came in last with only 1%

Please, oh please, oh please, nominate either of these two for President in 2008! The thorough trouncing they would receive in the main election would be simply hilarious to watch.

Thanks to Dan Trabue for providing the link that inspired this posting.


  • I vote for the candidate, not the party.

    I will not vote for:


    I'm ready for a strong NEW idea.

    By Blogger Ranando, at 7:04 PM  

  • I kept hoping that Pat Paulsen would run again, but he died a few years ago. One of his sound bites was,

    "We're upping our standards,

    so up yours!"

    It is a long way off to be considering anybody seriously, for either party. I do agree, it would be great to have Howard Dean as the candidate.

    By Blogger Rick's Corner, at 7:40 PM  

  • Yep! Howard Dean as the Democratic Candidate. I can see it now... truly! :)

    That's funny Rick: "We're upping our standards, so up yours!"??? You've got to admit it's clever.

    By Blogger Gayle, at 9:49 PM  

  • Shillary was booed out of Yankee Stadium in a city where Slimeocrats outnumber Republicans 9-1.

    Police and firemen booed her appearance at the World Trade Center.

    When your own party disses you this way you're history.

    Good riddance to liberal baggage.

    By Anonymous clownstomper, at 1:04 AM  

  • You're welcome.

    And you're verfiying what I've been saying: That the Lefties in this country actually want a further left candidate than the mainstream corporate flunkies we get offered.

    There's tens of millions of disaffected voters who could turn around this country if they ran a truly progressive candidate who'd turn out all those non-voters.

    Or so I'd like to hope.

    So while y'all are hoping that Dean will be the Dem candidate, I'll go ahead and pull for Kucinich and hope that Gingrich will be yours. May the most unelectable candidate lose.

    By Blogger Dan Trabue, at 4:40 AM  

  • redundantO

    Oh sagely one. Just out of curiosity, whom would you vote for?

    Dan T

    You should hope to win the lottery. You’d have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting a so-called progressive elected as president. BTW progressive is code for elitist, shallow, and vain.

    By Blogger blamin, at 7:08 AM  

  • The only person that comes to mind right now would be Colin Powell.

    Since we are at war, I think it's time to have someone in charge that has some idea on how to fight a war and win.

    I don't care for this, "PC War". I want someone who will go in and distroy the enemy and not dilly - dally around like the guys we have now.

    Osama should be dead.
    Iraq should have been over long ago with a complete VICTORY by the USA.
    Iran and Syria should have been overthrown by now.
    Our borders should have been sealed om 9/12.
    Saudi Arabia should have been the 51st state by now.

    These people in power today have never served in our military and are wasting time and getting our kids killed.

    By Blogger Ranando, at 7:34 AM  

  • I don't know about you people but when I fly in an airplane, I want the a pilot that has some experience in flying a airplane.

    I want the same when my country goes to war, experience and lots of it.

    By Blogger Ranando, at 7:42 AM  

  • Blamin:
    What progressives do you know and by what standards are they/we "elitist, shallow, and vain?"

    Or is "elitist, shallow, and vain" code for "intelligent, wise and spiritual?"

    But you're right. The chances for a true progressive (a la Kucinich, Moseley Braun, etc) to be elected in our corporate-run oligarchy to be elected president are probably fairly low.

    UNLESS, as I suggested, a true progressive actually excited the masses of folk who don't vote and turned them out, then there might be a contest.

    By Blogger Dan Trabue, at 7:54 AM  

  • RanandO

    I didn't think ya had it in ya! The only problem is that in today’s world I don’t believe we have the gumption to run a proper long-term war. The libweenies would wallow, bitch and moan too much. The progressives… excuse me, the "intelligent, wise and spiritual” would rather we stop those bad ole terrorist something like this: Please stop. I said please! You better stop. I mean it, you better stop! Don’t do that again. No, I mean it you’d better not do that one more time. Please don’t do that again. I’m telling. (wiping their eyes) Why won’t they stop, I said please.

    Dan T

    The progressives I know are of above average IQ, but below average in common/real world sense. They’re ignorant of real history, connoisseurs of sound bite news, and love a protest. They suck at chess but excel at charades. They’re excellent at interpreting modern art but are ignorant of human nature. They THINK they’re "intelligent, wise and spiritual” because they dropped a hit of acid or two in their day, and tie one on every now and again.

    By Blogger blamin, at 8:19 AM  

  • Awesome news! I still unfortunately wouldn't count Hillary out though since she has a lot of the money backers eating out of her hand.

    By Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox, at 8:28 AM  

  • Thanks, Blamin, for the answer.

    The progressives I know are, as you noted, quite intelligent. But that's where the similarities end to yours. My friends and I are church-going, mostly tea-totalling, deeply immersed in history and ethics and think a well-planned protest may have some benefit but would just as soon talk about making systemic changes and holding policy-makers accountable than protest.

    Maybe you need to start hanging out with a better grade of progressives.

    By Blogger Dan Trabue, at 9:09 AM  

  • Rick, if they start the campaign in Chicago Paulsen can run, hell dead people vote there all the time.

    As far as a DNC candidate, it's going to be interesting. With Warner taking an almost "pro-Bush" stance I Iraq the rabid base won't want him, but he's got much less baggage than any of the big names on the list.

    By Blogger Crazy Politico, at 9:56 AM  

  • If anyone heard something NEW today in Bush's speech, please let me Know what it is?

    He says, train, train, train the Iraqi's.

    How long does it take to train one of our soldiers for combat, six weeks? We train them for 6-10 weeks and then them off to do their duty.

    He's had 3 years to train the Iraqi's. Am I missing something here?

    By Blogger Ranando, at 1:59 PM  

  • send them off, sorry

    By Blogger Ranando, at 2:02 PM  

  • "He's had 3 years to train the Iraqi's. Am I missing something here?"

    Read this.

    By Blogger catastrophile, at 4:21 PM  

  • catastrophile,


    What's sad is that there are people who will trash this guy.

    Thanks for the READ.

    By Blogger Ranando, at 4:30 PM  

  • Depending on the job our soldiers train for 16 weeks to over a year before being integrated into the regular service.

    Our military is very old, and it has a full infrastructure, experience officers and NCO's and traditions to build upon.

    The Iraqi military is new and none of this.

    Considering this it is very reasonable that it would take a few years to create a capable army from scratch the way have.

    The Iraqi Army is geting closer to ready by the day. The time will soon come when we are no longer needed. With luck we will be out in 12-18 months.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 4:47 PM  

  • Daniel,

    I have to ask, do you think there will be a Democracy in Iraq?

    By Blogger Ranando, at 5:16 PM  

  • In case any of you do not know who Pat Paulsen was, he was a comedian on the 'Smothers Brother's Show.' He ran for President in 1968 as part of the show. One of my favorite episodes was his $.99 Spaghetti Lunch Plate fundraiser.

    Dan don't expect us to nominate someone out of the mainstream, probably not going to happen. I would , however, take Newt anytime over the big K. But Newt is not going to run for Pres. I don't think the Dems wil nominate Kicinich either for that matter. We have more mainstream electable people at this time.

    Meanwhile, it does amaze me that Democrats call themselves progressive. If being stuck in the sixties is progressive....well!!

    We studied the Kennedy election of 1960 in one of my Poli Sci classes. It was talked about how in Cook County 103% of the electorate voted.

    By Blogger Rick's Corner, at 6:59 PM  

  • Yes, I'm giving 10-20 years before a new dictator rises up. It just seems to work that way in the Middle East.

    By Blogger Daniel Levesque, at 7:00 PM  

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